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[Buddy Kidd]

Wrong again Buck. The Talaban was the government of Afganastan. At this point they have simply moved their operation from the capatal of Afganastan. That does not mean they are not still in existance. Wake up Buck, you have been wrong at every point you have brought out so far.

[buckshot]

Buddy, the Taliban was never the official elected government of Afghanistan. Only three Arab countries in the world recognized them and only for a short period of time. Now the formally elected government is led by Karzai whom the people formally elected. Better do some reading of the history of afghanistan before you make a fool of yourself.

[Buddy Kidd]

Buck, the US government dealt with and negotiated with the Talaban government before we attacked Afganastan. That made them the defacto government of Afganastan. Perhaps you need to know more about Talaban and Afganastan history before you make a fool of yourself.

[buckshot]

Buddy, after doing some research, this was the only reference to the Taliban being a legitimate government



The Taliban regime faced international scrutiny and condemnation for its policies. Only Saudi Arabia, Pakistan, and the United Arab Emirates recognized the Taliban as Afghanistan's legitimate government. After the September 11, 2001, terrorist attack on the U.S., Saudi Arabia and the UAE cut diplomatic ties with the Taliban.

[wing]

You win by killing the Taliban Buck. Just like we did with BIN Laden, who was not hiding in BORA BORA, but with your friends in Pakistan. You don't win anything by being a coward. They win. You lose. You lose the conflict, you lose respect and you lose the ability to influence things overseas. Think not? Story this morning says that Khadafi loyalists have retaken a town in Libya. Think they are scared of your hero Obama? Think they will be influenced by diplomacy? If you do think that I'd say you are bordering on lunacy. You win by winning...not by WHINING!!! Korea and Vietnam didn't teach you a damned thing!

[buckshot]

Wing, back then under Bush our intelligence experts thought he was hiding in the Bora Bora area around the border of Pakistan. Under Obama we found him hiding close to a major city in Pakistan, and we killed him with no loss of our SEALS. Yes, Vietnam and Korea did teach me something, and is that the killing of over 100 thousand of our soldiers between them could have been better handled with diplomacy and negotiation. We fled Nam, and now they are one of our trading partners and South Korea is now one of our Ally's. North Korea is now a isolationist country and a minor threat to us. I don't think that using our drones and special ops forces to eliminate the leaders of the Taliban is cowardice, just the smart way to accomplish our goals.

[Buddy Kidd]

buckshot, on 24 January 2012 - 09:40 AM, said:

Buddy, after doing some research, this was the only reference to the Taliban being a legitimate government



The Taliban regime faced international scrutiny and condemnation for its policies. Only Saudi Arabia, Pakistan, and the United Arab Emirates recognized the Taliban as Afghanistan's legitimate government. After the September 11, 2001, terrorist attack on the U.S., Saudi Arabia and the UAE cut diplomatic ties with the Taliban.

Buck, what does it take for a government to qualify to being in charge of a country? For sure the number of other governments recognizing them is not a qualifier. The US Government negotiated with the Talaban which means the US Government knew who was in charge or they would not have negotiated with them. If some entity was in charge in Afghanistan then the US Government would have negotiated with them instead. Your lack of knowledge is showing again Buck.

[buckshot]

Can the Taliban sign a peace treaty or negotiate any legal binding agreements that other countries would recognize? Anything we negotiate with them are not worth the paper it was written on.

Drones and special ops are the only way we can control them, Kill their leaders and they will have no directions to further their intentions to hurt our country.

[Buddy Kidd]

buckshot, on 24 January 2012 - 07:26 PM, said:

Can the Taliban sign a peace treaty or negotiate any legal binding agreements that other countries would recognize? Anything we negotiate with them are not worth the paper it was written on.

Drones and special ops are the only way we can control them, Kill their leaders and they will have no directions to further their intentions to hurt our country.

Who are we negotiating with if not a government?

Buck, what does it take for a government to qualify to being in charge of a country? For sure the number of other governments recognizing them is not a qualifier. The US Government negotiated with the Talaban which means the US Government knew who was in charge or they would not have negotiated with them. If some entity was in charge in Afghanistan then the US Government would have negotiated with them instead. Your lack of knowledge is showing again Buck.

[buckshot]

Buddy, getting back to the my original post, I think that the best way to handle the threat of the radical Islamists in Afghanistan would be to use Drones and special ops to kill their leaders, and they will have no directions to further their intentions to hurt our country, rather then having 100 thousand boots on the ground and spending billions to rebuild their country. We will never ever be able to change their ideology.

[Buddy Kidd]

buckshot, on 25 January 2012 - 07:14 AM, said:

Buddy, getting back to the my original post, I think that the best way to handle the threat of the radical Islamists in Afghanistan would be to use Drones and special ops to kill their leaders, and they will have no directions to further their intentions to hurt our country, rather then having 100 thousand boots on the ground and spending billions to rebuild their country. We will never ever be able to change their ideology.

I see that you are unable to come up with a rational answer to my questions so you try to change the subject. LOL

France Opts Not to Pull Forces From Afghan War


Opps, you got it wrong again Buck.