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[buckshot]

These types of incidents are happening too frequently, and we have no way to stop them.

http://www.nytimes.c...thers.html?_r=1

[Buddy Kidd]

YUP

Germans, Japanese, and Italians were killing Americans in WWII Buck. Should we have cut and run then?

[buckshot]

Buddy Kidd, on 12 January 2012 - 12:00 PM, said:

YUP

Germans, Japanese, and Italians were killing Americans in WWII Buck. Should we have cut and run then?

Buddy, How can you compare the two? You are being illogical!

Edited by buckshot, 12 January 2012 - 07:37 PM.

[Buddy Kidd]

Not at all. You say we should cut and run because a Afghan killed a US trooper. Using your own logic we should have cut and run in WWII and every other war we were in.

[buckshot]

Buddy Kidd, on 13 January 2012 - 02:40 AM, said:

Not at all. You say we should cut and run because a Afghan killed a US trooper. Using your own logic we should have cut and run in WWII and every other war we were in.

Buddy, this is the fourth time this has happened . These are Afghanistan soldiers that we have trained and we pay them for their services, and there is no way we can stop them from making martyrs out of themselves. It was not like this in europe, we were dealing with rational humans there, not suicidal maniacs. Buddy, I have just one question for you, have you EVER been wrong about anything?????

[wing]

So we were dealing with rational humans in Nazi Germany eh? And with the Japanese...rational humans, right? Think they didn't have suicide bombers? Gee, wonder what those kamikaze pilots were then.

I won't ask you if you have ever been wrong Buck. The answer is obvious...you voted for Obama!

[Buddy Kidd]

buckshot, on 13 January 2012 - 06:14 AM, said:

Buddy Kidd, on 13 January 2012 - 02:40 AM, said:

Not at all. You say we should cut and run because a Afghan killed a US trooper. Using your own logic we should have cut and run in WWII and every other war we were in.

Buddy, this is the fourth time this has happened . These are Afghanistan soldiers that we have trained and we pay them for their services, and there is no way we can stop them from making martyrs out of themselves. It was not like this in europe, we were dealing with rational humans there, not suicidal maniacs. Buddy, I have just one question for you, have you EVER been wrong about anything?????

I have been wrong lots of time Buck, but when dealing with history I check my facts and rarely post anything wich is wrong. Germans killed Americans. Japanese killed Americans. Al Quada killed Americans. By your logic Obama was wrong for sending in the SEALS to kill Osama.

[buckshot]

wing, on 13 January 2012 - 05:54 PM, said:

So we were dealing with rational humans in Nazi Germany eh? And with the Japanese...rational humans, right? Think they didn't have suicide bombers? Gee, wonder what those kamikaze pilots were then.

I won't ask you if you have ever been wrong Buck. The answer is obvious...you voted for Obama!

The German soldiers were rational soldiers just like our troops were, and the Japanese American soldiers who fought for us in Europe were a great asset for the USA, unlike the Islamic soldiers in Afghanistan who on many occasions turned the guns we gave them on our own troops. You got that Wing?

[buckshot]

Buddy Kidd, on 13 January 2012 - 08:19 PM, said:

buckshot, on 13 January 2012 - 06:14 AM, said:

Buddy Kidd, on 13 January 2012 - 02:40 AM, said:

Not at all. You say we should cut and run because a Afghan killed a US trooper. Using your own logic we should have cut and run in WWII and every other war we were in.

Buddy, this is the fourth time this has happened . These are Afghanistan soldiers that we have trained and we pay them for their services, and there is no way we can stop them from making martyrs out of themselves. It was not like this in Europe, we were dealing with rational humans there, not suicidal maniacs. Buddy, I have just one question for you, have you EVER been wrong about anything?????

I have been wrong lots of time Buck, but when dealing with history I check my facts and rarely post anything wich is wrong. Germans killed Americans. Japanese killed Americans. Al Quada killed Americans. By your logic Obama was wrong for sending in the SEALS to kill Osama.

What you just posted about Obama sending in SEALS to kill OSB has nothing to do with me being a non interventionist. We were at war with Al Quada and OSB was their leader.

[buckshot]

wing, on 13 January 2012 - 05:54 PM, said:

So we were dealing with rational humans in Nazi Germany eh? And with the Japanese...rational humans, right? Think they didn't have suicide bombers? Gee, wonder what those kamikaze pilots were then.

I won't ask you if you have ever been wrong Buck. The answer is obvious...you voted for Obama!

Wing, I consider myself in good company when the smartest and most articulate member of the forum also voted for Obama. You have no BALLS, or you would have challenged him.

[Buddy Kidd]

buckshot, on 14 January 2012 - 07:26 AM, said:

Buddy Kidd, on 13 January 2012 - 08:19 PM, said:

buckshot, on 13 January 2012 - 06:14 AM, said:

Buddy Kidd, on 13 January 2012 - 02:40 AM, said:

Not at all. You say we should cut and run because a Afghan killed a US trooper. Using your own logic we should have cut and run in WWII and every other war we were in.

Buddy, this is the fourth time this has happened . These are Afghanistan soldiers that we have trained and we pay them for their services, and there is no way we can stop them from making martyrs out of themselves. It was not like this in Europe, we were dealing with rational humans there, not suicidal maniacs. Buddy, I have just one question for you, have you EVER been wrong about anything?????

I have been wrong lots of time Buck, but when dealing with history I check my facts and rarely post anything wich is wrong. Germans killed Americans. Japanese killed Americans. Al Quada killed Americans. By your logic Obama was wrong for sending in the SEALS to kill Osama.

What you just posted about Obama sending in SEALS to kill OSB has nothing to do with me being a non interventionist. We were at war with Al Quada and OSB was their leader.

The Taliban also killed Americans Buck, and we are at war with them. Your logic still stinks.

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Wing, I consider myself in good company when the smartest and most articulate member of the forum also voted for Obama. You have no BALLS, or you would have challenged him.

Dear Buck, Richard voted for Obama because he knew Obama would be a disaster and it would set the liberal/progressive/socialist/communist (take your pick) agenda back a number of years. You voted for Obama because you thought what he was advocating would be for the good for the country and you still say what he has done and is doing to the country is good for the country. I would have thought you could understand the difference and why Richards reasoning is understandable while yours is despicable in the eyes of many.

[buckshot]

Buddy, now you have become a mind reader?????

This is what he said just last month......



"In the last Presidential election, I voted for President Obama, and I am very happy with the results.

I am hopefull, not optimistic, but I am honestly hopefull that we will see some positive change".

[Buddy Kidd]

Don't take two sentences out of context Buck. Quote the entire post.

And your logic still stinks.

[buckshot]

Buddy Kidd, on 14 January 2012 - 08:38 PM, said:

Don't take two sentences out of context Buck. Quote the entire post.

And your logic still stinks.

Buddy, you can interpret what he said to your liking, but I see it as a boost for what Obama has been trying to do since his election.

Edited by buckshot, 15 January 2012 - 08:14 AM.

[Center Punch]

How about you buck, start another thread requesting all members who voted for Obama to state their reasons for doing such.

You could add another question requesting an analysis of Obama's performance.

Then buck, we could all see how right you are with your analysis of Richard's reasoning.

I don't think you have the guts to do it, but I'll give you a day or so to start the thread before I start one.

[buckshot]

CP, I am sure that Richard and myself are the only two members of this forum who voted for Obama. I don't think it would elicit much response. If you wish to do so, be my guest.

[Buddy Kidd]

buckshot, on 15 January 2012 - 08:13 AM, said:

Buddy Kidd, on 14 January 2012 - 08:38 PM, said:

Don't take two sentences out of context Buck. Quote the entire post.

And your logic still stinks.

Buddy, you can interpret what he said to your liking, but I see it as a boost for what Obama has been trying to do since his election.

What is the matter Buck? Afraid to post the entire post?

[Richard]

I did vote for Obama, and I am very happy with the result, primarily the backlash engendered by President Obama's policy excesses which has resulted in the emergence of the tea parties movement, the election of a significant number of financially conservative Republicans, and a dramatic change in the character of the public discourse. I am also hopeful that the upcoming elections will result in further improvements, both by reducing the numbers of Democrats in public offices as well as diminishing the influence and numbers of so called "moderate" Republicans.

The most important negative consequence to the election of Obama has been the elevation of jurists Sotomayor and Kagan to the Supreme Court, and for that I am deeply ashamed.

I live in Texas where Republicans dominate statewide elections and where my vote did not have any impact on the election other than to reduce the margin by which Sen. McCain dominated the state. Realistically, my vote was an insignificant protest against a Republican party that had largely abandoned core conservative values. What good is a Republican party to the cause of liberty when many individual Republicans are so parched for political power that they are as willing as any Democrat to quench that desperate and dishonorable thirst from the poisonous well of socialism?

I will not exchange my franchise for bread and circus.

I hope I have now spoken plainly such that no man might misunderstand my perspective and I apologize if I wrote so poorly in the past that an honest man might fail to accurately comprehend what I was attempting to communicate.

[Buddy Kidd]

Buck took two sentences out of context and made up a lie Richard. It is simple as that.

[Jack of 32]

for Buck.

Now what do you have to say Buck???