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[Buddy Kidd]

The rent for this place comes due in October. The last few months we have been averaging only 7 - 8 post per day. I can't see continuing this way.

Does anyone have any ideas as to how to increase participation?

[wing]

Well I can see it! PM me with the bill amount...I'll pay it.

[Buddy Kidd]

It is not the money, it is the lack of activity.

[JackA]

Buddy Kidd, on 19 August 2010 - 10:19 AM, said:

The rent for this place comes due in October. The last few months we have been averaging only 7 - 8 post per day. I can't see continuing this way.

Does anyone have any ideas as to how to increase participation?

Well I just deleted by accident 30 minutes of keyboarding. Maybe I said too much?

However, one point was, I'm willing to help with the upcoming rent due in October. Please let me know what you think a fair contribution would be and I would be happy if you considered allowing me to help. Personally I think it would be a shame to allow your Breach forums to disappear into history.

I'll try it again later.

Jack A.

[Jack of 32]

Ditto what Jack A. said Buddy.

I don't have an answer for what can be done to bring it back to what The Breach used to be, but maybe if you could send out a PM or e-mail to all those registered here and ask them that question and see what their answer might be.

[Buddy Kidd]

JackA,

It is not about the money. I can afford the rent, it is about the participation.

Jack of 32,

I would like to see what the e-mail should say. Perhaps several of you can kick that around and come up with something good. How many people would allow their board name to be used as signatories?

Does anyone else have a suggestion?

[wing]

Well, you KNOW the response you'll get from Paul, Seadog and Buck. But rather than asking why nobody's posting, ask what can be done to improve the board. Other than kissing the hind quarters of traitorous liberal idiots, that is. I see people lurking around in the background reading posts...people like Breeze and others, so they are around. Rather thaan ask the usual suspects, ask those you see lurking and ask what they'd like to see. Just a thought...

[JackA]

Buddy, I know it’s about participation and not the money. Those of us who offer to help out with the cost only do so because we sense a feeling of being a company-man.

A couple of my points very briefly from last night revisited would be:

“The Breach” forum is the flagship of “Unto The Breach” forums and as such is chartered and carters to the political. Nothing wrong with that; some folks can talk politics all day being that it is one of their main interests in life. However, to have discussions which will affect the liberal Left-wing minded will require pointed dialogue with them. Then this may not be a desired format and I understand not wanting to go in that direction. If such dialogue is courted it must be in a cautious manner to be sure, but it also must be in a courteous manner as well. It's difficult to be sure, and one of the reasons for lack of interest on my part.

Then another reason is being a “religious right-wing conservative” that I am, it is difficult for me to maintain interest in the continuous rehash of the same problems with our country (left-wing liberalism and socialism). My wife and I vote and support the conservative folks who can bring about the substantive corrective-action and change needed today in order to return this country to its former greatness. IMO, the USA is still the greatest place to live, but it is on a downhill slide with its present leadership. It will take more that political interest and discussions to turn our country around. It will require us Americans to repent and seek God’s (Yahweh’s) His face.

Recently I wrote a dear friend that this period of time we live in today may be trying, but that I believe our Heavenly Father and God still desires to bless us (USA), providing that is if we as a country repent and seek His face. If we will acknowledge Him and ask His forgiveness and direction He will surely bless us and provide the governmental and spiritual leadership that this country so desperately needs today.

Personally Buddy, I believe Obama and his liberal counterparts running the government today were allowed by God to come into power just to show us all how far we have drifted away from Him as a nation. You and others may not see it that way, and I understand. Still though IMO, God allowed the conditions that exists today. And most assuredly He can restore again to this country its former greatness and leadership in the world community...if, if we as a nation will truly repent and seek His face. It is not too late!

In the O.T. in 2 Chronicles 7:14 is the well known and oft repeated verse which states God’s requirement for blessing: humility, prayer, devotion, and repentance.

While the following account deals with Israel, God’s requirement for blessing a country is the same: humility, prayer, devotion, and repentance.

2 Chronicles 7:12-22

Then the Lord appeared to Solomon at night and said to him, "I have heard your prayer, and have chosen this place for Myself as a house of sacrifice. 13 If I shut up the heavens so that there is no rain, or if I command the locust to devour the land, or if I send pestilence among My people, 14 and My people who are called by My name humble themselves and pray, and seek My face and turn from their wicked ways, then I will hear from heaven, will forgive their sin, and will heal their land. 15 Now My eyes shall be open and My ears attentive to the prayer offered in this place. 16 For now I have chosen and consecrated this house that My name may be there forever, and My eyes and My heart will be there perpetually. 17 And as for you, if you walk before Me as your father David walked even to do according to all that I have commanded you and will keep My statutes and My ordinances, 18 then I will establish your royal throne as I covenanted with your father David, saying,' You shall not lack a man to be ruler in Israel.'

19 "But if you turn away and forsake My statutes and My commandments which I have set before you and shall go and serve other gods and worship them, 20 then I will uproot you from My land which I have given you, and this house which I have consecrated for My name I will cast out of My sight, and I will make it a proverb and a byword among all peoples. 21 As for this house, which was exalted, everyone who passes by it will be astonished and say, 'Why has the Lord done thus to this land and to this house?' 22 "And they will say, 'Because they forsook the Lord, the God of their fathers, who brought them from the land of Egypt, and they adopted other gods and worshiped them and served them, therefore He has brought all this adversity on them.'"

May our God in Christ Jesus bless you Buddy and encourage you, and give you direction.

Jack A.

[Center Punch]

The quality is there Buddy. Don't get fixated on quantity or 'market share' please.

[Jack of 32]

Center Punch, on 20 August 2010 - 01:36 PM, said:

The quality is there Buddy. Don't get fixated on quantity or 'market share' please.

Very good point CP....

[Buddy Kidd]

wing, on 20 August 2010 - 08:16 AM, said:

Well, you KNOW the response you'll get from Paul, Seadog and Buck. But rather than asking why nobody's posting, ask what can be done to improve the board. Other than kissing the hind quarters of traitorous liberal idiots, that is. I see people lurking around in the background reading posts...people like Breeze and others, so they are around. Rather thaan ask the usual suspects, ask those you see lurking and ask what they'd like to see. Just a thought...

I think the idea about asking what can be done to improve the board is a good one. Does anyone else have any other ideas?

JackA, on 20 August 2010 - 12:33 PM, said:

Buddy, I know it’s about participation and not the money. Those of us who offer to help out with the cost only do so because we sense a feeling of being a company-man.

A couple of my points very briefly from last night revisited would be:

“The Breach” forum is the flagship of “Unto The Breach” forums and as such is chartered and carters to the political. Nothing wrong with that; some folks can talk politics all day being that it is one of their main interests in life. However, to have discussions which will affect the liberal Left-wing minded will require pointed dialogue with them. Then this may not be a desired format and I understand not wanting to go in that direction. If such dialogue is courted it must be in a cautious manner to be sure, but it also must be in a courteous manner as well. It's difficult to be sure, and one of the reasons for lack of interest on my part.

Then another reason is being a “religious right-wing conservative” that I am, it is difficult for me to maintain interest in the continuous rehash of the same problems with our country (left-wing liberalism and socialism). My wife and I vote and support the conservative folks who can bring about the substantive corrective-action and change needed today in order to return this country to its former greatness. IMO, the USA is still the greatest place to live, but it is on a downhill slide with its present leadership. It will take more that political interest and discussions to turn our country around. It will require us Americans to repent and seek God’s (Yahweh’s) His face.

Recently I wrote a dear friend that this period of time we live in today may be trying, but that I believe our Heavenly Father and God still desires to bless us (USA), providing that is if we as a country repent and seek His face. If we will acknowledge Him and ask His forgiveness and direction He will surely bless us and provide the governmental and spiritual leadership that this country so desperately needs today.

Personally Buddy, I believe Obama and his liberal counterparts running the government today were allowed by God to come into power just to show us all how far we have drifted away from Him as a nation. You and others may not see it that way, and I understand. Still though IMO, God allowed the conditions that exists today. And most assuredly He can restore again to this country its former greatness and leadership in the world community...if, if we as a nation will truly repent and seek His face. It is not too late!

In the O.T. in 2 Chronicles 7:14 is the well known and oft repeated verse which states God’s requirement for blessing: humility, prayer, devotion, and repentance.

While the following account deals with Israel, God’s requirement for blessing a country is the same: humility, prayer, devotion, and repentance.

2 Chronicles 7:12-22

Then the Lord appeared to Solomon at night and said to him, "I have heard your prayer, and have chosen this place for Myself as a house of sacrifice. 13 If I shut up the heavens so that there is no rain, or if I command the locust to devour the land, or if I send pestilence among My people, 14 and My people who are called by My name humble themselves and pray, and seek My face and turn from their wicked ways, then I will hear from heaven, will forgive their sin, and will heal their land. 15 Now My eyes shall be open and My ears attentive to the prayer offered in this place. 16 For now I have chosen and consecrated this house that My name may be there forever, and My eyes and My heart will be there perpetually. 17 And as for you, if you walk before Me as your father David walked even to do according to all that I have commanded you and will keep My statutes and My ordinances, 18 then I will establish your royal throne as I covenanted with your father David, saying,' You shall not lack a man to be ruler in Israel.'

19 "But if you turn away and forsake My statutes and My commandments which I have set before you and shall go and serve other gods and worship them, 20 then I will uproot you from My land which I have given you, and this house which I have consecrated for My name I will cast out of My sight, and I will make it a proverb and a byword among all peoples. 21 As for this house, which was exalted, everyone who passes by it will be astonished and say, 'Why has the Lord done thus to this land and to this house?' 22 "And they will say, 'Because they forsook the Lord, the God of their fathers, who brought them from the land of Egypt, and they adopted other gods and worshiped them and served them, therefore He has brought all this adversity on them.'"

May our God in Christ Jesus bless you Buddy and encourage you, and give you direction.

Jack A.

JackA, I appreciate the "company man" statement more than you can know.

I also see board members posting things on other boards which would be of interest here on Unto The Breach, never posting them here. There must be a reason for that. Especially when one sees that the discussions on the other boards are not nearly as courteous as they are here. Don't get me wrong, at one time we went through a stage where bad language and insults were common. Also there were the mistakes I made while running the board which I have corrected and apologized for.

So I guess my question still stands, what can we do to get more activity on this board?

Center Punch, on 20 August 2010 - 01:36 PM, said:

The quality is there Buddy. Don't get fixated on quantity or 'market share' please.

Jack of 32, on 20 August 2010 - 06:20 PM, said:

Center Punch, on 20 August 2010 - 01:36 PM, said:

The quality is there Buddy. Don't get fixated on quantity or 'market share' please.

Very good point CP....

It is not market share I am concerned about. Market share implies number of members. I am talking about the participation of the 60 members we have left. What can we do to get them to making more posts? Do you realize that this one topic has generated enough posts to double the average daily posts the last couple of days?

There have been 10 members read this topic and as of this post only four of them are interested enough in this board to make a suggestion or comment.

[Jim Miller]

I don't have a whole lot to add. I guess you can start by evaluating what it was that caused the collapse of The Breach, make every effort to prevent it from happening again, and be patient. A return to the greatness that was once displayed here will not happen over night. Submitted with all due respect.

Edited by Jim Miller, 21 August 2010 - 08:26 AM.

[Buddy Kidd]

Jim Miller, on 21 August 2010 - 08:25 AM, said:

I don't have a whole lot to add. I guess you can start by evaluating what it was that caused the collapse of The Breach, make every effort to prevent it from happening again, and be patient. A return to the greatness that was once displayed here will not happen over night. Submitted with all due respect.

That is a good contribution to the discussion Jim. Thank you.

I have been trying to do that very thing for the last 2 years. Perhaps I don't know how.

[Center Punch]

Sounds to me like you're bumming that other boards are hopping and this one isn't getting/winning the same activity/popularity contest.
THAT'S what I meant by market share, but it may have been a poor word choice.

I don't post on boards NEARLY as much as I used to and no amount of prodding, or threats of shutting your board down is going to change that.

I DO enjoy reading quality posts by everyone here, and I am glad I don't have to read as many posts of idiotic drivel from the likes of Sea Puppy, buckshot, telcoman, jelly bean, etc. as I used to.

Please relax about this.

[wing]

I agree. I'd rather read 7 or 8 good posts than have to sort through all of the garbage slung up here by the gang CP mentions. Nothing wrong with this board at all. It's summer time...nice warm weather and people are out doing things with their families, which is as it should be. Let this go on after September and perhaps there is cause for concern...but only perhaps. We've made a decision that this is to be a right wing, or conservative-leaning board. Nothing wrong with that at all. More will show up and participate...once they know that they are among friends.

[JackA]

Buddy, you would be better served to use the time you spend reading other boards using it here posting on the Breach. I do not mean the posting of blogs and news articles found somewhere else and pasted here. There is a place for them to be sure, but in many of those type threads the membership has already read about the subject. The opinions regarding those news items are what generate the interest, at least for me. Maybe I do not hold the same interest others have, but several pages of a current news article I read earlier is not going to generate enough interest for me to spend time rereading another account of the same subject and then make a reply. Usually by that time I tire of the subject.

We may not be as big as some forums, but I like the quality of what the other members post. That’s the reason I continue to read here.

As for posting on other forums, I did at the invite from a member to participate in a Biblical discussion at the Open Door. The Cloisters and Scrolls were not having much activity at time and as you are aware I’m sure, Bible and spiritual discussions interest me a lot. Anyway, I was naïve enough to think I might be able to contribute, but that was not to be. That was over a year ago and I haven’t participated since. The only reason I do not post more in the Cloisters is most of the Threads there are mine already and it gives the appearance (to me anyway) that I’m trying to monopolize the forum.

P.S. I like the Breach even when the activity is light. Maybe I'm naive about to say this, but I consider the Breachers my friends, enough so that it I were in need and a member lived close by I think I would have a friend who would help me.

Edited by JackA, 21 August 2010 - 11:46 PM.

[Grey Mountain]

Although I don't post every day, I DO check the forum daily, sometimes more than once. I would hate to see it go away.
Most of us are fairly conservative, a bit to the right. I do have a problem with those who immediately attack those from the
other side - our left-leaning friends. I welcome their opinions, even if I disagree completely with them. However, it seems that
if one of them so much as says "good morning," he is immediately slammed with an ad hominem reply. Everyone has a right '
to his own opinion. Disagree long and often if you wish, but keep it civil or we'll wind up talking only to ourselves.

Buddy - you're doing a great job. Keep it up.

Lonnie

[Center Punch]

JackA, on 21 August 2010 - 11:43 PM, said:

Buddy, you would be better served to use the time you spend reading other boards using it here posting on the Breach. I do not mean the posting of blogs and news articles found somewhere else and pasted here. There is a place for them to be sure, but in many of those type threads the membership has already read about the subject. The opinions regarding those news items are what generate the interest, at least for me. Maybe I do not hold the same interest others have, but several pages of a current news article I read earlier is not going to generate enough interest for me to spend time rereading another account of the same subject and then make a reply. Usually by that time I tire of the subject.

We may not be as big as some forums, but I like the quality of what the other members post. That’s the reason I continue to read here.

As for posting on other forums, I did at the invite from a member to participate in a Biblical discussion at the Open Door. The Cloisters and Scrolls were not having much activity at time and as you are aware I’m sure, Bible and spiritual discussions interest me a lot. Anyway, I was naïve enough to think I might be able to contribute, but that was not to be. That was over a year ago and I haven’t participated since. The only reason I do not post more in the Cloisters is most of the Threads there are mine already and it gives the appearance (to me anyway) that I’m trying to monopolize the forum.

P.S. I like the Breach even when the activity is light. Maybe I'm naive about to say this, but I consider the Breachers my friends, enough so that it I were in need and a member lived close by I think I would have a friend who would help me.

Yes. You would.

[Center Punch]

Grey Mountain, on 22 August 2010 - 05:10 AM, said:

Although I don't post every day, I DO check the forum daily, sometimes more than once. I would hate to see it go away.
Most of us are fairly conservative, a bit to the right. I do have a problem with those who immediately attack those from the
other side - our left-leaning friends. I welcome their opinions, even if I disagree completely with them. However, it seems that
if one of them so much as says "good morning," he is immediately slammed with an ad hominem reply. Everyone has a right '
to his own opinion. Disagree long and often if you wish, but keep it civil or we'll wind up talking only to ourselves.

Buddy - you're doing a great job. Keep it up.

Lonnie

Glad you brought that up. I'm pretty sure you're speaking of me even though you haven't reponded to anything I've posted in a long, long time.

I have a problem with people lying about things. I only attack the idiots who base their opinions on things that aren't true. And the intensity of that attack increases with the amount of times said idiot has been shown the truth. I do NOT attack anyone who says "Good morning." Be they idiots or not.
The intensity of the attack also increases when the said idiot runs away from the truth, dodges fact revealing questions, and then starts up their illogical, irrational, and irresponsible "opinion" all over again. At BEST it shows a lack of respect to me as well as others. How civil is THAT.

You've heard the statement, "You're entitled to your own opinions, but not your own facts."

The mindless drivel from the idiots keep conversations from going anywhere but in a circle. I don't learn anything that way and progress certainly isn't going to be made that way.

As I've said. I have a problem with people lying about things. Because the lies have gone unchallenged for so long, look where this country is today. Look how the fruits of labor have been stolen from The People. Look how our freedoms have been irroded away. Look at how much terrrible behavior is being overlooked.

I'll stop there to keep it 'civil'.





Buddy - You ARE doing a fine job with this board. If you weren't, then I and others here wouldn't be jumping up offering to pay the rent.

[Buddy Kidd]

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Buddy, you would be better served to use the time you spend reading other boards using it here posting on the Breach. I do not mean the posting of blogs and news articles found somewhere else and pasted here. There is a place for them to be sure, but in many of those type threads the membership has already read about the subject. The opinions regarding those news items are what generate the interest, at least for me. Maybe I do not hold the same interest others have, but several pages of a current news article I read earlier is not going to generate enough interest for me to spend time rereading another account of the same subject and then make a reply. Usually by that time I tire of the subject.

Point taken Jack. News and Blog information will be available for anyone to read in the Ye Olde News Stand forum.


How about new blood? Has anyone else invited others to join up lately?