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[Center Punch]

MrsS, on 25 August 2010 - 09:31 AM, said:

Center Punch, on 22 August 2010 - 06:45 AM, said:

.....I have a problem with people lying about things.

I only attack the idiots who base their opinions on things that aren't true. And the intensity of that attack increases with the amount of times said idiot has been shown the truth.

The intensity of the attack also increases when the said idiot runs away from the truth, dodges fact revealing questions, and then starts up their illogical, irrational, and irresponsible "opinion" all over again....

CP,...

...You said to GM: You didn't represent the truth. I point it out. Which truth are you talking about? Or is it your opinion?

He said I pounce on anyone I don't agree with for saying good morning. I positively don't do that. If you were so inclined, you could ask buckshot about the conversations we have had here when he has talked about his boats. You could also ask the telcoman how I responded when he posted up about his wife's health issues.

Their truthfull answers would absolutely prove that I don't just pounce on liberals/democrats/socialists whenever they open their mouths.
GM's assertion is a lie wheather realized or not.

(You, a proponent of socialism, could now truthfully say as well that I didn't pounce on you for making this post...)

When those liberals/democrats/socialists post false information, I do pounce on them and I won't apologise for it.
After all, they are the ones who have years worth of history on disrespecting the members here by refusing to ackowlege facts prestened to them... over and over and over. For years they have been keeping conversations going in circles with their trolling posts.

[Jim Miller]

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.......like abortion - where there is no absolute truth......

Hmmmm. No matter how you cut it (bad pun), a dead baby is the result. That is the absolute truth!

[Buddy Kidd]

I appreciate your contribution to this thread and to the board. However, if you look at the F&I or the Congress you will see left and right being jumped on by the other side no matter what they post.

Do you have any suggestions as to what we can do to increase the participation here on this board?

When I read about what other people say about Unto The Breach on other boards the only continuity I see is it is all my fault. Ok, I have changed and have even apologized. What else would be needed? My resigning? If that is all that is needed then just say so, no problem, it will be done.

[JackA]

Buddy Kidd, on 27 August 2010 - 08:16 PM, said:

I appreciate your contribution to this thread and to the board. However, if you look at the F&I or the Congress you will see left and right being jumped on by the other side no matter what they post.

Do you have any suggestions as to what we can do to increase the participation here on this board?

When I read about what other people say about Unto The Breach on other boards the only continuity I see is it is all my fault. Ok, I have changed and have even apologized. What else would be needed? My resigning? If that is all that is needed then just say so, no problem, it will be done.

Buddy, One thing you need to remind yourself, continuously it appears, is the fact some of these bitter and noisy members on the other boards you read don’t give a rip about you, or you being a successful Administrator here on your own forum. Why do you even care what some of these types think? Some people have such a dislike of others, in this case you and your members here, that there is nothing you can say or do, which will appease their bitterness. Give it up! Don’t waste your time! IMO, if you keep reading and reacting to what they are saying about you and your board it will in the end likely be the reason you close down “Unto The Breach”. Not because of present low participation. Just my 2 cents on the subject.

[Center Punch]

RTD, on 27 August 2010 - 07:59 PM, said:

I think GM is bang on the money here. The first couple of replies to this thread already jump on the left as being idiots.

Close mindedness is huge on these forums, and it's what has brought this place to a stand still. All the 'left wing idiots' have left, for obvious reasons, and now all that is left is a stagnant forum. The Door is the same thing right now. When someone with a different opinion chimes in, and gets jumped on, what are the odds that the same poster will keep posting.

I love this place, and it is still my forum of choice so to speak, but I've seen it happening from the outside looking in. Everyone that is not on the 'right' is definately in the 'wrong' around here.

Just saying is all....

Hell, I just proved how incorrect GM is in his assertion of me, and still you post this...

This place has the quality info and solid, rational, and reasonable posts. Sex, Violence, and Controversy sells gets the post count up.

[Grey Mountain]

CP, my original post was not about you. You apparently made a jump in logic and wrongly assumed that I had you in mind. I had no one in particular in mind.

Buddy: You are doing a great job. I don't participate in those other forums, and don't care one way or another what they say about the Breach. It's not important
what happens or is said on those other forums. What is important is what happens on this forum.

Lonnie

[Center Punch]

Grey Mountain, on 23 August 2010 - 05:22 AM, said:

...Other than one little burp, you don't show it. Unless whining is thinking for yourself...

This pretty much proves my point. Rather than comment on the content of the post, a forum member responded with an ad hominem attack on the poster. It gets pretty old after a while.
I'm all for spirited discussion, differing opinions, counter points - but when it gets to "I win because I called you more bad names than you called me," I lose interest.


GM

Ummm. The truth is right here in black and white and so is the posts by those who say they agree with this.

There isn't any need to sugar coat it Folks. I am fully aware that my posts sting, smartly, the posters who constantly prevent progress here. And we all know that I am one of the very few here who do it the way I do. By now, you should all know why I do it this way, but maybe not.

I don't want their kind of disrespecting posts here. Again, they have years of history doing this and I won't seek common ground with those who want our contry to be too weak to help anyone. I'm not trying to 'win' anything other than causing them to start posting with progress in mind, respecting others here who are asking them to answer questions, - or leave.

[Buddy Kidd]

RTD, on 28 August 2010 - 06:00 AM, said:

CP, I wasn't pointing a finger at you at all, take it easy big fella. I was pointing out something that I find very obvious.

Buddy, you don't need to resign, we can all figure this out.

One suggestion I have is to get rid of all the sub forums. There is a great group of people here, and some really great minds. If everything went in one place, maybe there would be most participation. I honestly don't check the other forums, but would probably read the threads if they were in one place, like The Door (did I just say that??)

I personally like how this forum is locked, so if I do post a personal picture, I know it will only be certain people that see it, people that I trust.

I do agree with CP that sex, violence and controversy gets the post count up, but does that necessarily mean a 'better' forum?? I think not. I have learned a lot from this forum, from History to Politics, and many places in between. It would be a shame to lose that...

I have been thinking about reducing the number of sub forums myself. So I just reduced them quite a bit. Is that better?
I don't know what to do about the Cathedral forums. For privacy purposes the Prayer Chain and the Candles in the Wind forums are not even shown except to members.

BTW - For those who are wondering what happened to all those posts, they are in The Breach forum.

I am glad to hear you like The Breach forum locked. One of your country men criticized us just the other day on another forum for having it locked.

[JackA]

Buddy Kidd, on 28 August 2010 - 09:59 AM, said:

RTD, on 28 August 2010 - 06:00 AM, said:

CP, I wasn't pointing a finger at you at all, take it easy big fella. I was pointing out something that I find very obvious.

Buddy, you don't need to resign, we can all figure this out.

One suggestion I have is to get rid of all the sub forums. There is a great group of people here, and some really great minds. If everything went in one place, maybe there would be most participation. I honestly don't check the other forums, but would probably read the threads if they were in one place, like The Door (did I just say that??)

I personally like how this forum is locked, so if I do post a personal picture, I know it will only be certain people that see it, people that I trust.

I do agree with CP that sex, violence and controversy gets the post count up, but does that necessarily mean a 'better' forum?? I think not. I have learned a lot from this forum, from History to Politics, and many places in between. It would be a shame to lose that...

I have been thinking about reducing the number of sub forums myself. So I just reduced them quite a bit. Is that better?
I don't know what to do about the Cathedral forums. For privacy purposes the Prayer Chain and the Candles in the Wind forums are not even shown except to members.

BTW - For those who are wondering what happened to all those posts, they are in The Breach forum.

I am glad to hear you like The Breach forum locked. One of your country men criticized us just the other day on another forum for having it locked.

Buddy,

If you and others think it best for the overall improvement of “Unto The Breach” that the Cloister & Scrolls forums be removed then try it. I take no offense if you do. I’m aware that Threads catering to religious, biblical, and spiritual subjects are not vogue unless containing heated debate.

It’s a fact that only 49 Cloister Threads were started this year (1.44/wk), whereas I put up 39 of them (79.6%). It‘s evident these threads, at least mine, I failed in generating interest. The Scrolls did not have one Thread put up so this year.

It’s my understanding Dan (Kiwi_too) was the individual who’s efforts it was that they came into existence in the first place, then for some reason Dan no longer posts here now. Hopefully I wasn’t the cause of his and the other members’ lack of participation.

The only sure way to know if your forum will be better off with their removeal is to try it.

As for the Prayer Chain and Candles In The Wind forums, personally I think it would be wrong to remove them, then that to is your call.

[Buddy Kidd]

Dan quit posting because of a silly argument he and I had, it had nothing to do with you Jack. It was about the amount of participation on this board.

I am not going to change the Cathedral for now. It could not possibly hurt to have it the way it is in my opinion but I am still listing for ideas.

[wing]

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It's not important what happens or is said on those other forums. What is important is what happens on this forum.

Absolutely Lonnie! Couldn't have said it better.

As for the Cathedrals and whether or not it is "in vogue"...who cares? I like it. I bet others here like it. If people take offense to it, let 'em not look there in the first place! I sure wouldn't take it down Buddy.

[Jack of 32]

Good discussion Buddy and I thank you for leaving the Cathedral alone....

[Buddy Kidd]

I hope it fixes the problem for you!!

[Psycmeistr]

I also like the idea of a locked Breach forum. I feel quite comfortable 'letting my hair down' here because I know that I'm among people I can trust.

Also, Buddy--I think that cutting down the "Great Halls" into one Breach forum was a great idea. Jack--I do enjoy reading your posts in the Cloisters and elsewhere...

[Fr. Mike]

I think I know where Buddy is coming from and support his efforts to maintain this place. Some of us go back years to that day when this place became a refuge from the old Fire forum. And the place was vibrant and active. I don't mean to be putting words in Buddy's mouth, but he wants active discussions...not a library.

Strong willed and opinionated people drive discussion forums. And it is a delicate balancing act that allows the mix of emotions and beliefs remain under one roof. No matter what your former background was, there is no skill set that prepares an administrator for this job. All administrators fall flat on their face from time to time. The point of no return can come, if active members move on. Those remaining can claim somewhat of a victory, if ideology is more important than interaction. From reading some of the comments here, it sounds like those who are among the eight posts a day want it that way. And are willing to fund the library. But Buddy wants to discuss 'stuff'. That is why he has a 'discussion' forum, not a library in the title.

Awhile back, an attempt was made to turn the corner here. And at that time it was met with many of the same remarks.."we like it just the way it is"...don't change a thing Buddy, you are great and this place is great". Great for who? Certainly not great for somebody who wants to engage regularly in discussions. Yes I know, most of you folks are busy with your lives and devote as much time and energy to tis place as you have available. You read the posts and from time to time make a comment. Eight a day. On a busy night, this place once had that many posts in 20 minutes.

I'm with you Buddy. I'm busy at another place most of the time, but this will always be the home town. It is sad that there are weeds growing on the playground, that was once occupied by so many. To me that question is " how to bring back under one roof the strong willed and opinionated. From the tone of the semi regulars here, it would have to be without their consent or approval. They don't want to mix it up too much with those who think differently than they do. And if they must from time to time, they do what it takes to chase them off. It's comfy here for them.

What do you want Buddy? I miss mixing it up with you. I miss some of the shouting around here.