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Started by Buddy Kidd, Aug 19 2010 10:19 AM
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Posted 22 August 2010 - 08:27 AM
"The American Republic will fail when politicians realize that they can bribe the people with their own money."
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Posted 22 August 2010 - 08:37 AM
I invited three people this morning. One of them has already joined.
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Posted 22 August 2010 - 05:14 PM
...Like Jim, I'm not sure how much I have to add here either. But I do know a couple of things. I disagree that things are slow here because its summer. Moolah's forum is as slow as we are here yet Jelly and Space's forum is as active as we once were here. They're doing a good job there. Some misfits openly take umbrage with both this forum and the Door. Others pile on with one complaint or another. Not sure what their personal gripes are but they complain about being censured or banned or otherwise (disciplined) for breaking the forums rules. I think the BLUF here is that the old "regulars" have moved on. Waiting for them to return or luring them back with a membership run forum as has been suggested before wont work. I think if our little community is to last here, and technologically speaking this is by far the best forum in the group, new membership...right, left and otherwise needs to be attracted. Other than inviting people I don't know how to do that.
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Posted 23 August 2010 - 05:22 AM
...Other than one little burp, you don't show it. Unless whining is thinking for yourself...
This pretty much proves my point. Rather than comment on the content of the post, a forum member responded with an ad hominem attack on the poster. It gets pretty old after a while.
I'm all for spirited discussion, differing opinions, counter points - but when it gets to "I win because I called you more bad names than you called me," I lose interest.
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This pretty much proves my point. Rather than comment on the content of the post, a forum member responded with an ad hominem attack on the poster. It gets pretty old after a while.
I'm all for spirited discussion, differing opinions, counter points - but when it gets to "I win because I called you more bad names than you called me," I lose interest.
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Posted 23 August 2010 - 05:47 AM
Sorry you feel that way. I'm just calling the facts out.
You didn't represent the truth. I point it out. And you cry fowl because you don't like my style.
You didn't represent the truth. I point it out. And you cry fowl because you don't like my style.
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Posted 23 August 2010 - 06:13 AM
Grey Mountain, on 23 August 2010 - 05:22 AM, said:
...Other than one little burp, you don't show it. Unless whining is thinking for yourself...
This pretty much proves my point. Rather than comment on the content of the post, a forum member responded with an ad hominem attack on the poster. It gets pretty old after a while.
I'm all for spirited discussion, differing opinions, counter points - but when it gets to "I win because I called you more bad names than you called me," I lose interest.
GM
This pretty much proves my point. Rather than comment on the content of the post, a forum member responded with an ad hominem attack on the poster. It gets pretty old after a while.
I'm all for spirited discussion, differing opinions, counter points - but when it gets to "I win because I called you more bad names than you called me," I lose interest.
GM
A case in point, thank you GM.
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Posted 23 August 2010 - 06:23 AM
There is a huge amount of name calling on both the Congress and F&I. It doesn't seem to have effected their participation. There has been little name calling on this board for months now but participation has not increased. I don't think that is the answer but I am still open to that and other ideas.
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Posted 23 August 2010 - 09:56 AM
Grey Mountain, on 22 August 2010 - 05:10 AM, said:
...I do have a problem with those who immediately attack those from the
other side - our left-leaning friends...
However, it seems that if one of them so much as says "good morning," he is immediately slammed with an ad hominem reply.
...Disagree long and often if you wish, but keep it civil or we'll wind up talking only to ourselves.
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other side - our left-leaning friends...
However, it seems that if one of them so much as says "good morning," he is immediately slammed with an ad hominem reply.
...Disagree long and often if you wish, but keep it civil or we'll wind up talking only to ourselves.
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Imo GM is right to the point.
Different opinions are needed to keep a board alive; while posters agreeing seemingly leads to talking to yourself.
BTW, that also goes for a left-leaning board, where there are hard-core conservatives needed for discussion..
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Posted 23 August 2010 - 11:46 AM
Personally I've been busy this summer so not alot of time in front of computer. Also I forgot my password when someone cleared the memory on the computer. I sent for a new one, got one and then it became a real pain in the backside trying to get back here with all the numbers and the times it would tell me wrong password or username. Just wasn't woth the fustration, but I would hate to find this forum shut donw.
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Posted 23 August 2010 - 12:34 PM
MrsS, on 23 August 2010 - 09:56 AM, said:
Grey Mountain, on 22 August 2010 - 05:10 AM, said:
...I do have a problem with those who immediately attack those from the
other side - our left-leaning friends...
However, it seems that if one of them so much as says "good morning," he is immediately slammed with an ad hominem reply.
...Disagree long and often if you wish, but keep it civil or we'll wind up talking only to ourselves.
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Imo GM is right to the point.
Different opinions are needed to keep a board alive; while posters agreeing seemingly leads to talking to yourself.
BTW, that also goes for a left-leaning board, where there are hard-core conservatives needed for discussion..
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I can agree with that.
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Posted 23 August 2010 - 01:08 PM
Some here have a history that is hard to ignore.
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Posted 23 August 2010 - 04:47 PM
Buddy Kidd, on 23 August 2010 - 06:23 AM, said:
There is a huge amount of name calling on both the Congress and F&I. It doesn't seem to have effected their participation. There has been little name calling on this board for months now but participation has not increased. I don't think that is the answer but I am still open to that and other ideas.
...I don't think name calling and spirited discourse has anything to do with it either. I think a lot of boards users seek out the opposite view for the purpose of attacking it. Maybe it gives them somewhat of a feeling of empowerment, albet limited. At least someone is listening to them if only on a message board. People are angry, they want an outlet.
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Posted 23 August 2010 - 05:50 PM
Jim Miller, on 23 August 2010 - 01:08 PM, said:
Some here have a history that is hard to ignore.
That is true Jim. I for one have noted my mistakes and have even apologized for some of my past actions. I don't know what else to do about that.
I have also noted that name calling and cursing on other boards hardly ever get criticized like they did here on Unto The Breach. I can't figure that one out either.
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Posted 24 August 2010 - 06:10 AM
Buddy Kidd, on 23 August 2010 - 05:50 PM, said:
Jim Miller, on 23 August 2010 - 01:08 PM, said:
Some here have a history that is hard to ignore.
That is true Jim. I for one have noted my mistakes and have even apologized for some of my past actions. I don't know what else to do about that.
I have also noted that name calling and cursing on other boards hardly ever get criticized like they did here on Unto The Breach. I can't figure that one out either.
Think back to the posters, who, OVER THE YEARS, have disrespected you, me, and most of the members here by refusing to answer questions which would reveal the truth. They're trolls at best and all they do is keep the conversations going in circles.
Yea, so they get the post count up. So what.
Not for me.
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Posted 24 August 2010 - 06:24 AM
That's not who he meant CP.
If the Arabs put down their weapons today, there would be no more violence. If the Jews put down their weapons today,there would be no more Israel.
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Posted 24 August 2010 - 06:33 AM
I wasn't talking about Buddy or CP. I was referring to our resident Canadians.
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Posted 24 August 2010 - 08:33 AM
Actually, it's only TWO Canadians, at least from MY perspective...
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Posted 25 August 2010 - 09:31 AM
Center Punch, on 22 August 2010 - 06:45 AM, said:
.....I have a problem with people lying about things.
I only attack the idiots who base their opinions on things that aren't true. And the intensity of that attack increases with the amount of times said idiot has been shown the truth.
The intensity of the attack also increases when the said idiot runs away from the truth, dodges fact revealing questions, and then starts up their illogical, irrational, and irresponsible "opinion" all over again....
CP, I think it`s no easy thing with the truth, especially not in political discussions.
What is truth and what is opinion?
I`ll try to make my point clearer by giving an example - abortion. ( This is only an example! )
I guess I know your take on this, as well as you know mine. You are strictly against it, it`s baby-killing to you, while I am pro-choice.
We both are convinced of our point of view .
So, what now?
Can you claim the truth? Can I?
Imo at best there is a personal truth concerning this special issue, but in no way an absolute one.
Of course there are political issues where one can say this is right or this is wrong, but mostly you can`t.
You said to GM: You didn't represent the truth. I point it out. Which truth are you talking about? Or is it your opinion?
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Posted 25 August 2010 - 11:53 AM
No offense intended MrsS.
Abortion verses Pro-life is not be a good example in so far as having a political discussion regarding "what is truth and what is opinion". For most who are pro-life find their facts coming from what the Bible presents as God's position on the subject. Most profilers are Christian and therefore accept as truth that abortion is against God's will and as such is not an opinion. I think a different example would better serve your point.
Again, no offence intended, only saying the abortion issue will only side-track the discussion.
Abortion verses Pro-life is not be a good example in so far as having a political discussion regarding "what is truth and what is opinion". For most who are pro-life find their facts coming from what the Bible presents as God's position on the subject. Most profilers are Christian and therefore accept as truth that abortion is against God's will and as such is not an opinion. I think a different example would better serve your point.
Again, no offence intended, only saying the abortion issue will only side-track the discussion.
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Posted 25 August 2010 - 12:20 PM
JackA, on 25 August 2010 - 11:53 AM, said:
Most profilers are Christian and therefore accept as truth that abortion is against God's will and as such is not an opinion. I think a different example would better serve your point.
Again, no offence intended, only saying the abortion issue will only side-track the discussion.
Again, no offence intended, only saying the abortion issue will only side-track the discussion.
I am not offended, JackA. As I recall your posts, they`ve always been written in a civil and decent way.
I accept that for a true Christian that is the truth. But what about people like me, who are more like a paper-Christian and not a strict believer?
Can it be the truth for me also, even if I don`t believe?
Edited by MrsS, 25 August 2010 - 12:22 PM.
